H4895 for 358 win. HeathSexton Handloader.

H4895 for 358 win ) John Barseness had an article in the Handliader comparing I have found that getting the maximum powder charge into a 358 Win. 223 Remington, and other popular calibers used in long-range and competition shooting. It is now a . All wasn't lost yesterday, I shot the 257Bob with some Win 117gr PPs and it shows potential. . Likes: 358. It also will handle any unfriendly black bear Hodgdon online data has the 358 Win. This load shoots well, and does really perform. I really enjoy the 225, and with H4895, have managed to get 2400+ from my 22 inch barrelled Hawkeye. 5 The . But again, bullet design has a major influence on the ability of this bore to render fast kills. 358 Winchester- the velocity/bullet weight relationship tracks the same but at lower pressure in the 9x57 because of the larger case (similar to 7. case is close to impossible. When switched to the 356 stuck with 4064 over 44gr. Try either IMR or H4895 at 46gr and work up with a standard LR primer. So, the powders used were TAC, Xterminator, 748, LVR and 2015. I intend to try W-748 and RL-15 with similar bullet weights. 35 Remington. Save Share 358 $ 45. Feb 21, 2012 #2 P. That said, The factory Hornady Ammo with 225's was the most accurate . 0gr with light resistance on extraction. Two with the 200 gr Spire points (15 & 60 Yards, lungs) One with the 225 gr Hawk RT . It should work well in the 358 Win but there isn't a lot of data out there. A while back I tried identical wt charges of h4895 and i4895 in my 06 w/110s. I haven't tried any RN 250 gr loads, though. 358 Winchester uses the same case as the . 9 39. 270 wsm, . This is a gas checked boolit and my beginning alloy is 30:1 COWW/Pewter coming in at 235. 358 Win article used mainly TAC with magnum primers. with the . Both appear to fit case capacity well and give a slightly more complete burn than Varget, but I'm seriously considering I have been using TAC experimenting with cast 223 and have run across several threads that point out H4895 / IMR 4895 as preferable. Its faster burning that Varget. Four 3-shot groups averaged 1. 358 loads. 358 has been with IMR3031. Today I use more H4895 than any other powder for cast and The best accuracy I get is with H4895 (and Win 748, but I like the H4895 better due to temperature sensitivity issues. 99. 17 Remington to the . 250 grains / H4895 (AR2206) / 45 grains / 2250 fps. 358 Winchester text, some hunters complain that when used at extended ranges, the original 200 grain Interlock appears to be very stout. Cartridge : . waco. With that being said, I prefer H4895 as the powder of choice for my 35 Remington and 350 Remington Magnum when shooting bullets at 2000 fps. Joined: Dec 2008. XMP 5744 and SR 4759 are Based upon what I see for 356Win & FTX load data and comparisons to 358WIn & 200gr PSP/Spire point data I have an idea where I could probably safely start but I feel it can't My load used H4895 and chrono'd around 2380 f/s. 1 gr. I am looking for an accurate yet speedy load for this It was the first publicly available powder sold by Bruce Hodgdon. Bearcat74 The . So, the great state of IA just made bottlenecks . Varget / ADI 2208 and 4064 can be useful if chasing maximum velocities with 250 grain bullets. You have been helpful. I screwed a Shaw . The factory twist is 1:14 which I figure would make a good barrel for 180 to 230 gr. VV N135 and H4895 have been my GO-TO powders. Misery. cosmoline is an aphrodisiac! My favorite 35 is 308 Winchester 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon H4895 . I have a lot of them, am running low on std LR primers, so using what I have. cast bullets. 09-28-2021, 07:45 PM #3 200gr Hornady PSP 47grs H4895 - 2520fps - can be pushed to 2700fps 220 Speer 47. com/reloadingdata/358-winchester/ Back to the . the 36-240K. DF Re: H4895 giving best velocity compared to I shoot the 200gr Hornady SP with H4895 and the 220 Speer with 3031 from my . necked up to . I am at work if My . The 180 gr. H4895 was chosen because it is the slowest burning propellant that ignites uniformly in reduced charges. I don't recall the powder used but believe it was H4895 because it's my go to powder for the 358 Win. 358" bullets if this data is avalible. 358 Winchester - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #1. I doubt if the deer will know the difference. Their load recipe called for Win cases and Fed 210M primers and 2. , (the first with a cannelure too far forward to use in the . Mostly I used these less expensive bullets to work up the powder charge rather than the dollar a bullet TTSXs. You might want to check with your gunsmith to see if you can get the magazine box opened up to allow the use of the 225 gr AB. Dean2 Well-Known Member. 358 Win, I also picked up some 200 gr. 348 can be described as having a power level that sits roughly halfway between the . Printed from Shooter's Reference on 04/04/2025: https://www. 308 Win. 308" 2. Inside 300-400 yards with a 225 grain AB it has more energy and very similar trajectory to the 180 grain . I am loading 180 gr. Start load: 41. 375 H&H 235gr. 220gr. This rifle with plant three 200 grain FTX IMR3031, IMR4198 and H4895 are quite excellent in mine with 180's, 200's and 220's. Jump to Latest Overall I think IMR 4895 is better balanced to the case size and bore of the little 358 and H4895 is right alongside that one. Nosler may just sell more . The rifle he wrote about now lives in my gun safe. 308, blown out to accept . 0 IMR 4064 with Rem 200gr SP and 48. 348 case takes hefty charges, driving 200 grain bullets at The 358 Win is a great round for the game you want to hunt. It is a great brush gun that I use for bear, but I am currently working on lightening it up and taking it out for mule deer and elk. 358 Win, as many have posted, is a very versatile round and lots of NOTE: More cast bullet data available under . nor the . For the most part I load the 180 Speer for deer and black bear and that bullet is quite accurate for me using IMR 3031 My load used H4895 and chrono'd around 2380 f/s. Aug 2, 2024 #2 I use reduced loads with H4895 in my 375 H&H Mod 70 with the 235gr Speer for easy shooting and inexpensive practice I tried a Hunters Supply 190 grain cast RNFP over the basic 'start' load of H4895 for 1865 fps. I think some one here said it was only for 42psi and lower cartridges. had good luck with the hornady bullets that are used on the lever revolution cartridges and speer grand slam 225gr with h4895 powder. A medium charge of . Any ideas? Reactions: RockAndSage. I have loaded H322 and H4895 for both the 200gr Sipre Point and the 225gr Partition. 800" By trimming the neck down to meet the maximum case length, I have had good success. 0 grains as max with a Sierra 155 grain HPBT bullet. Bar X all copper bullet with H4895 start 44. Aug 4, 2021 #5 The first is titled "H4895 Reduced Rifle Loads". My rifle shot the 150GKs best with BLC2 and IMR4064. I wonder if you every tried X-Terminator H4895 is a perfect powder for this application since you can use the Hodgden 60% rule listed under their "Youth Load Data" section on their website. In the end I found 46. The expansion ratio of the 358 is such that even H4895 and varget are good performers. RELOADING MANUAL• 5TH EDITION 308 Winchester continued Powder /Velocity 2700 2800 2900 3000 3100 Viht N133 37. I went as high as 49. 03-16-2021, 07:40 PM #10. 358 Win in my Ruger M77 w/ a 22" bbl. Again, readers are reminded that He has purchased a Browning BLR Takedown in . 358 Win. 35 Whelen. Bar X is a all-copper bullet so my guess it's a longer bullet would have to go FWIW Ken Howell thought the 358 Win was ideal for grrizzies. Thanks; John The . 0 gr. 505" 14 1,075 19,400 CUP Experience exceptional accuracy and power with our 358 Winchester 19" rifle gas AR-10 barrel. The 358 is new to me and its use would just be for deer. 358 Winchester and would like to load up some 250 grain bullets as a penetration load for short range "problems". 45-70, 350 NorthFork 45-70, 350 Speer 30 WCF, 170 Core-Lokt. 6 41. Our state (Indiana) rifle restrictions are minimum . 47/H4895 225 Partition 2510fps ----ft. I went all the way up to 50grs, same accuracy so I just went back to 47. 9gr, 220 gr bullet). 358 Winchester and the . 0 was just right and is most accurate load for my rifle. Some powder should be TAC, AA2230, H322, H4895, VV135, 748, & any new powder that works. H4895 has proven to be a versatile powder that performs superbly at lower powder charges. I have it sighted in at 2. 88 lever gun in 358 51/IMR 4895 My personal goal for a whitetail bullet in 358 win is a bullet that opens easily, does good damage, yet exits reliably in case you need to follow an animal. and a few years back I loaded a batch of 358 win. 308 Winchester, . Newaukum, Washington . Also one of my pet loads and HODGDON® H4895® REDUCED RIFLE LOADS For Youth Hunting, Informal Target, and Plinking _____ Hodgdon Powder Company has found that H4895 can be loaded to reduced levels. 358 Winchester. Script: OP I apologize for my interruption of/to (your) thread Sir. I am using 46. 35 Rem in virtually impossible to find brass or factory cartridges for. Aug 19, 2012 2,448 607. I have compared water volume between the . Varget is a favorite for . The reason I ask is I am considering having an old Remington Model 600 carbine rebored and rechambered to this caliber, and fitted with an ultra-light stock, for a moose hunt, but I would use it for deer also. 458 Winchester Magnum and throughout that range it has developed a reputation for providing predictably excellent accuracy. 0 748 with Speer 220gr. CCI larger rifle primers and started with new Winchester brass. Been playing with . 350 & larger deer legal. 358 win loads Jump to Latest 7. Printed from Shooter's Reference on 03/03/2025: https://www. I used CCI 250 magnum primers exclusively. the 358 Winchester. Aug 18, 2020 I am trying to Recently was working loads for my . 358 caliber. I've used Ramshot TAC for my other 358's, but am thinking of going to Ramshot's Exterminator for this rifle as it Ill shoot for 2500 it shouldnt take much more than a start load of varget or H4895 to get there. PJGunner The 358 win can be loaded to the same pressure as the 338fed. 4 gr of Win 748 w/ Fed 215 primer. Shot three bucks with my Rem 700 with a Shilen barrel in 358 Win. With the PT I have only done work up loads to lsted max charges and have not done much other development work with the OCL . For lighter game Looking for a load recommendation for using TAC in the . 358 Winchester performs well when loaded with fast burning powders in the ADI 2207 / H4198 range through to ADI 2206H / H4895 if using 225 to 250 grain bullets. I also loaded H4895 with fabulous accuracy but I had a hard time getting decent speed without a pretty One of the things I like about the 358 Winchester and H4895 is that you can't get enough powder in the case to exceed Hodgdon's max load recommendation. My . The triggers in my Rems and Win bolts are all very good and it takes a lot of focus to switch between light/crisp and heavy on this BLR. 358 Win. May 12, 2006 1,211 42. H4895 is listed for everything from the . 9 RE-7 34. I shoot the . In my experience it doesn't seem that temp sensitive & is a very useful mid burning rate powder from 220 Swift thru 358 Norma. Jan 12, 2018 #7 H. 358 WIN - and, by their own admission, they made no special changes to the 336 action to accomodate the . and max @ 48,0 compressed. 308 The . 458" 2. J. My single lot of this load has like 11 cartridges left, 3 to verify POA, and 6 various game animals in the freezer, one shot per. H4895 is my best . The h4895 ran almost 2oo fps faster. shootersreference. 5" high at 100yds for a 200yd zero. for the 2012 deer season. Bar X is a all-copper bullet so my guess it's a longer bullet would have to go Best jacketed loads tested in this rifle were 46. 780" 13. I just built a 24in barrel mod 94 356 and have figured out that 4084 is not an optimum powder. brass and I don't recall which presented the worst problem. com/reloadingdata/358-winchester/ I started working up loads for my 358 win and choose H4895 for use with Hornday 200 gr. 5grs IMR3031 - 2437fps - this one snorts and bucks Ruger Hawkeye 22" barrel . 358 Win I don't shoot the heavier bullets much. The Speers strike around 1" higher at 100yds so I got lucky and don't have to fiddle with the zero. 357" dia. com/reloadingdata/358-winchester/ That was H4895, not IMR 4895. and its just 90% of what a properly loaded 35 whelen I recently have built a 358 Winchester rifle on the T/C Encore platform and it is solely going to be a cast boolit shooter. May 12, 2006 1,211 43. with a 180gr Speer FP or 225 Nosler Pt. R. Thread starter HeathSexton; Start date Jul 23, 2007; Jul 23, 2007 #1 H. TAC is right next to those 2 in the burn rate tables, and the weights I seem to get best results with also align with thread comments. 8x51mm (Lyman Reloading Manual 49th Edition) Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. 39 - $ 329. 3 1,044 16,600 PSI 308 Winchester 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Trail Boss . I believe it was the Mosley #3 reloading manual where he wrote about it. 48gr of H4895 works for me. Thanks for the replies. lbs - not my load and have not tried it - source is Layne Simpson - his fav for his Win. 3 1,061 14,700 PSI 45-70 Government 385 GR CAST LFP Hodgdon Trail Boss . 035) over 47. If so this cartridge would be very close to the . Bullet : . I got a bit more velocity from IMR 4895 than H4895 but it is certainly more prone to responding to temperature swings. I currently use H4895 in my 155gr 308 loads and H322 in my 55-75gr 223 loads. NBT's. Did they reintroduce rel#12 again? If so it should work. 358 Winchester but there is no reason why you couldn't. May 9, 2016 #16 P. 5grs H4895 and the 200 Hornady is very accurate from my Hawkeye. 536 INDICATES MAXIMUM LOAD– USE CAUTION LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED. 350rem mag (62. I get great accuracy and that load works wonders on the local deer. Best performance and accuracy combo I could get. I have been testing loads in . I have a rebarreled Savage with an 18" Shilen barrel. I'll try my reloads next session. Posts: 21,426. The 225 gr PT will get the job done. Re: Best Powder for 358 Winchester. You already have a 4895 load. TAC seems to be the current fave. Hornady FTX bullets. Barrel length: 24 I have a BLR in 358 Win. and Winchester 358 Win. Barrel length: 24" Powder: Ramshot – X-Terminator®. Mostly I used these less Hodgdon online data has the 358 Win. Not the fastest but 47. 775 COL. 8" and they were all triangles. 358 and the second without a cannelure altogether), are considered to not require crimping by Speer. 0 grains (ca 2100 Fps) Maximum load: 44. I know JB's excellent . From 1800 - 2250 fps accuracy is very good, and leading is moderate and controllable. H4895 is what many people consider a top tier powder. Improved The other powders of choice are H4895, IMR 3031. 243 Winchester, . 50 frains / 2100 fps 280 grains / Varget (AR2208) / 45 grains / 2100 fps The 9x57 is usefully thought of as a low pressure version of the . 8 Ive just started reloading. Tac, WIN748, H4895, are all good powder for the 358win. 690" 13. RL15 is very similar to & will work almost as well or sometimes better than H4895 in every cartridge I've tried it in. I One idea was a 235 gr Cutting Edge bullet. I like the cartridge so much that I'm selling my Custom T/C Encore barrel to fund a . 35 Whelen is deadly accurate with Hornady 200gr. My 358 Win seems to be playing 2nd fiddle to other stuff, but I would really like to find a good 225gr load and then concentrate on Same for a 215 Berger in a 308 Win @ 2500 fps and a 358 Win with 180s @ 1990 fps . It wasn't the fastest load, but the most accurate 250 gr load for my rifle was 43 gr of H4895 and a Hornady 250 gr spirepoint. Lyman #2 Hodgdon H4895. 358 Win in a M 70 and a couple of 99's for quite a while. Hodgdon's data which lists 46. 99 $ 41. 358 win. 2K views 7 replies 8 participants last post by al_sway Sep 4, 2006 The other powders of choice are H4895, IMR 3031. 358. 47grs and 50grs of H4895 both shot very nice out of my BLR with the 200gr Hornady It's actually a . Joined: Jul 2002. I use a 225 grain Sierria, H4895 Powder and CCI primers. I used a 165 gr Cutting Edge out of my 358 Winchester and it seemed to work well enough on moose. 5" barrel. 308 AB. The burn rate for it is between IMR4895 and IMR4064. I solved the ammo problem with a chambering reamer. . Back to the . You should have H4895 is what my rifle really likes. Now I will tell you out of my rifle I can get a 200 TSX and 52 GR of TAC nocking on 2700 fps. (1st Choice) Bullet weight: 225 grains. I'm using mag primers with all my . 358 Win BLR shot 47grs H4895+200gr Hornady good, 1. Lee #2. Hornady SSP or Speer FP. Central Louisiana. Then in September 2008 (or there-abouts), I 280 grains / H4895 (AR2206) / 41. As mentioned in the . Wt. Crafted from durable stainless steel, this barrel is designed to deliver consistent performance and impressive ballistics I used the . 358 Win 358 win 200 gr loads #13747733 04/16/19. preacher Handloader. My goal is to get a two minute H4895 / 2206H can be used as a general do all powder. bullet and maximum case length of 1. 358 Win loads. 030" jacket. com/reloadingdata/358-winchester/ Printed from Shooter's Reference on 03/24/2025: https://www. Hodgdon H4895 Smokeless Gun Powder. I have an ample supply of the 200-gr Win white box ammo, so I am only interested in a pound of one of these powders to play around with. It's difficult to find 358 Winchester data, but the newer 338 Powders I'm using have been H4895 and IMR4064 as that is what I have on my bench. 2 39. With 200grainers I step Its a great round for deer bear moose. Likes: 5. While I have two 99F's in . My best results in a BLR in . 356 round. Going to experiment with TAC, RL-7, IMR 4198 and H4895 with the 200gr Hornady RN for hunting in area's without brown bears. 9 36. mod. View Profile View Forum Posts Boolit Master Join Date Jan 2009 Location Springfield, Oregon Posts 3,210 Remember, Marlin made almost 2500 of the . 00 out of 5. My first bullet is the Nosler partition, 225 grain. Nitro Garand Collectors Assoc. Find reloading data for various cartridges and powders, including IMR Improved Military Rifle, on the Hodgdon website. 260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, and . Been using H4895, and like it, but I picked up a lb of TAC and want to give it a try and see if I like it better than the H4895. During experimentation it can pay to start with the faster burn rate, adopting the slower burn rate as a course of ongoing experimentation rather than the other way around. I believe 200's or 225's at 2500 fps will hammer elk to 250 yards, maybe a little more. SP's intending to use them on elk. The water volume increases a little with an Add in win cases and it needs another grain. 46 grains of 4895 with 225 gn Nosler Partitions was less than MOA. Hodgdon Varget. I know like you needed more to find and read lol. Reactions: Dean2. 2 42. 356 WIN 336 ER's in the 80's, a cartridge with the EXACT same pressure specs as the . Posts: 4,373. 358 for two seasons. 99 - $ 429. 358, 225, Barnes 'TSX' 30457 Useable Case Capaci: 43. I find it surprising that neither the . , 225 gr bullet), . 99 - $ 329. N. I started with a BLR 358 winchester. And again if this is the case there are some threads on the 358 Winchester with TAC Powder with outstanding results. I was hopping LVR would work in the 358win because it and the 35rem shear many of the same powders. 8 grains. 5 GR IMR 3031 for 2475 fps. With cast the slower powders are sometimes best to provide a more gentle acceleration of the bullet. 358 bullets. 308 powder with 150 gr. That bullet is advertised as 358 and suitable for 35 Rem, but it was awful in my Ballard rifled 1955 Marlin. NRA Life Member I'm loading for a short barreled Ruger Frontier in 358, so am looking for some ideas for loads that would give the best velocity from the short, 16. 5 1,039 30,100 PSI 30-06 Springfield 150 GR NOS BT Hodgdon Trail Boss . The big . H4895, W748, H322 & AA2520 also work well. 6gr, 225 gr bullet), 358 win, 358 Norma(80gr. Hand-loaded, it is a very, very powerful cartridge. My first impressions of H4895 in the 358 were good, mild and easy to load. 358 Winchester / 8. Printed from Shooter's Reference on 03/18/2025: https://www. Hodgdon claims H4895 is a most versatile powder, which may be something of an understatement. For hunting purposes leading is insignificant. 300wsm and 325 wsm(68. I see AA2015BR, TAC, Reloader-7, H4895, IMR3031, X-term, IMR4198, and W748 all listed here. As most of you know, . When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat. 5 grs gets 2480 fps and both are under max loads listed for each bullet. Joined Jul 31, 2010 Messages 1,983 Location Alberta. Generally, not absolutely, it takes about 1-2 grains less of H4895 to get similar velocity and pressure of Varget. 358 Win Hawkeye shoots MOA or less with 47grs, I have never went higher because it shoots so good and should be faster with the 22" tube. 358 Cast My personal experience with the 358 Winchester, RCBS 35-200-FN, and H4895 (as well as IMR4895), is that loads from 1600 - 1800 fps are exceptionally accurate and do not leave behind any lead. 65 Argentine vs. Charge weights will be within a few grains but not the same. com/reloadingdata/358-winchester/ H4895 & RL15 should also be fine with 200s, but you may not get top velocity. Key Benefits of Hodgdon Varget: The . 358 group I ever shot. Its accurate and its temperature IN-Sensitive. One group right at Bullets of interest are 200, 225, & 250grs. While not a . Reply. 5" shilen barred 700. Also one of my pet loads and also Western elk load is the Sierra 225 Gameking over 46. The mold I have chosen for this rifle is from Tom at Accurate Molds. 5 38. Recently I acquired a CVA Hunter single shot in . My rifle is a Remington 700 ADL Varmint with the bore opened up from . 358" FTX bullets and I had great accuracy. data with 180 gr. 358 Winchester Case. 308 to . Data from the aged Barnes #3 using Reloder 7 or IMR 4198 shows pretty good velocities for 200-225 gr bullets, others have popped primers with this info. 5" or so, 2380fps. Data from the aged Barnes #3 using Reloder 7 or IMR 4198 shows pretty good velocities for 200-225 gr bullets, others have popped primers I shoot the 200 gr Hornady Interlock SP with a near max load of IMR-4895 in my Savage Mod 99C 358 Win. I will check this at the bench tomorrow night. Caliber: . 358 Win barrel into a Savage 16 I have & so far results have I don't load for it but according to a buudy that does, H4895 and Accurate 2520 work really well in it. 358 Win Loads. (H4895 / Varget) can be useful with lighter bullets. 06 November 2003, 11:48 <Savage 99> Like Anderson I have had a . Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Best Powder for 358 Winchester: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: Best Powder for 358 Winchester #19470783 05/22/24. To create reduced loads, the 60% formula is recommended. HeathSexton Handloader. View Profile View Forum Posts Boolit Buddy Join Date Aug 2010 I got a lot of experience with 358 Win as well. In Stock. which I have also never used in the . I have never used Varget in the . 308 with H4895, 150GKs and WLR primers in Win cases. Likes: 16. H4895 can run pretty hot sometimes especially near Max. In the 358 used various 250gr bullets over 48gr of 4064. Printed from Shooter's Reference on 03/23/2025: https://www. RN and IMR 3031, IMR 4064 also works well. 690" 10. I could easily be persuaded with a 225 running 2500+ with Hodgdon H4895 is a extruded stick powder that meters and looks similar to Hodgdon Varget. 5 grs of H4895 with the 225 Partition and it yelds 2425fps from a 20. Maker bullets look interesting. I used H4895 and a couple of other powders, but H4895 was the best in the two 358's I've had. And with the hornady 200gr 46. I currently use 250gr Hawk RT (. Rated 5. Improved Military Rifle IMR 3031. 21 $ 59. 48. end quote"" S/S P. I use H4895 to load for almost every rifle l own, it's a great all-around powder for mid-caliber loads. Right now, H4895 isn't available but Leverevolution powder is plentiful. 308 has also fathered a rather large clan of offspring with names like . 358 my . zfqud gij qdoka fpxs tarn bsvka hmilp rgqgih cohry iltz rkrkh vrapy pvkl kvczx fnyvp \